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	<title>Comments on: Winter Rain, part 25</title>
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		<title>By: Showeda</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;How serendipitous&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;I logged on to tell you that for the next few days&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;I can&#039;t read any more pages&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;I&#039;ll be too busy&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;But I didn&#039;t want you to think that I&#039;d lost interest&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;God No! :) Read you soon&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;
This writing nearly made me start comment with&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;Excellent writing Mr Poirier Sir&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;Glad I didn&#039;t&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;
You might not have responded..I get that you&#039;re kinda bashul/humble&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;
So thanks for making me feel helpful :) Laters&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;
See what you made me do&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;&#039;Laters&#039;..I hate &#039;Laters&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How serendipitous&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;I logged on to tell you that for the next few days&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;I can&#8217;t read any more pages&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;I&#8217;ll be too busy&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;But I didn&#8217;t want you to think that I&#8217;d lost interest&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;God No! <img src="http://couragemyfriend.org/fiction/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" />  Read you soon&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;<br />
This writing nearly made me start comment with&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;Excellent writing Mr Poirier Sir&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;Glad I didn&#8217;t&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;<br />
You might not have responded..I get that you&#8217;re kinda bashul/humble&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;<br />
So thanks for making me feel helpful <img src="http://couragemyfriend.org/fiction/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" />  Laters&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;<br />
See what you made me do&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;&#8216;Laters&#8217;..I hate &#8216;Laters&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Poirier</title>
		<link>http://couragemyfriend.org/fiction/winter-rain/story/part-25/comment-page-2/#comment-366</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Poirier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve really come to dislike some of the most recent installments (70+), and I&#039;ve been trying to figure out why.&#160; Rereading this part, I think I know &#8212; because I do like this writing.&#160; In later parts, I tried to make Tiergan less &quot;aware&quot; of his audience &#8212; less of a narrator, in other words.&#160; Thought it would be better if he didn&#039;t narrate his thought processes so much.&#160; But maybe think that was a mistake.&#160; This writing really does seem to work better.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the feedback, Showeda.&#160; :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve really come to dislike some of the most recent installments (70+), and I&#8217;ve been trying to figure out why.&nbsp; Rereading this part, I think I know &#8212; because I do like this writing.&nbsp; In later parts, I tried to make Tiergan less &#8220;aware&#8221; of his audience &#8212; less of a narrator, in other words.&nbsp; Thought it would be better if he didn&#8217;t narrate his thought processes so much.&nbsp; But maybe think that was a mistake.&nbsp; This writing really does seem to work better.</p>
<p>Thanks for the feedback, Showeda.&nbsp; <img src="http://couragemyfriend.org/fiction/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Showeda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Showeda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 01:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Excellent writing Mr Poirier&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;Tiergan&#039;s constant analysis, planning and execution&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;The attention to detail had me giddy before the vomit in the neck&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;(Classy touch&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;Never to be forgotten) For me that was sheer animal instinct verbalised&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;Fabulous&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent writing Mr Poirier&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;Tiergan&#8217;s constant analysis, planning and execution&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;The attention to detail had me giddy before the vomit in the neck&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;(Classy touch&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;Never to be forgotten) For me that was sheer animal instinct verbalised&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;Fabulous</p>
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		<title>By: Miladysa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miladysa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Gruesome!&#160; It worked well for me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I really liked the shape shifting in mid-air.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think the sniper would have noticed the fingers, he got up there that way so he did not need to concentrate on the view of his exit, his attention would be engaged in other areas.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gruesome!&nbsp; It worked well for me.</p>
<p>I really liked the shape shifting in mid-air.&nbsp;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the sniper would have noticed the fingers, he got up there that way so he did not need to concentrate on the view of his exit, his attention would be engaged in other areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Poirier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Poirier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Cool &#8212; thanks!&#160; Rereading this and the other fight scene, just now, it&#039;s kind of cool to realize I wrote them.&#160; I mean, I like the writing &#8212; I don&#039;t think I&#039;d change them.&#160; And &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; is really a new thing for me.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, thanks for the comments today.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool &#8212; thanks!&nbsp; Rereading this and the other fight scene, just now, it&#8217;s kind of cool to realize I wrote them.&nbsp; I mean, I like the writing &#8212; I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d change them.&nbsp; And <em>that</em> is really a new thing for me.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Anyway, thanks for the comments today.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan T Michaels</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allan T Michaels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;It worked for me.&#160; It was visceral and real.&#160; The puking into his throat seemed incredibly realistic.&#160; Reading the comments, it brought a smile to my face, but at the time of the reading, I was so enmeshed it just seemed natural.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It worked for me.&nbsp; It was visceral and real.&nbsp; The puking into his throat seemed incredibly realistic.&nbsp; Reading the comments, it brought a smile to my face, but at the time of the reading, I was so enmeshed it just seemed natural.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Poirier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Poirier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Hey Vercin &#8212; actually, I appreciate the detailed feedback.&#160; Helps me get a better handle on what worked and what didn&#039;t.&#160; :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In terms of the conduit, I&#039;m thinking of the metal standard on the side of the building to which an overhead power line or telephone line comes in.&#160; In my experience, it&#039;s about 2.5 inches in diameter, generally galvanized steel, attached directly to the wall with a couple of u-bolts, and extending three or four feet above.&#160; So, he would have been able to drop entirely below the top of the wall &#8212; no fingers showing.&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In any event, you are the person to judge whether or not I wrote it well, but I&#039;ve actually done everything up to the tackle.&#160; Seven feet is actually a pretty easy catch.&#160; The time I did it, it was closer to ten, and I had to use some ledges in the brickwork to climb high enough to grab the bottom of the conduit.&#160; Things got a lot easier after that.&#160; A wide pipe is surprisingly easy to hold onto.&#160; I&#039;m not entirely sure the tackle would work, though.&#160; You&#039;d have to hold on to the pipe while pushing off with your legs, in order to direct your momentum upwards (and not out).&#160; It would also take a while.&#160; You&#039;d have to hold even longer to direct your momentum inwards again, in order for the tackle to take the guy backwards onto the roof.&#160; So, not sure the physics actually work in that part.&#160; But, hey, never let the facts get in the way of a good tackle, right?&#160;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In terms of the shapeshifting, I didn&#039;t want it to take long or be all that angsty painful stuff you get in movies.&#160; Tiergan&#039;s got enough to angst about.&#160; ;-)&#160; And I&#039;m quite a bit less concerned with the physics of something impossible.&#160; So, let&#039;s just say it takes about a second.&#160; :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Again, thanks for the detailed feedback.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Vercin &#8212; actually, I appreciate the detailed feedback.&nbsp; Helps me get a better handle on what worked and what didn&#8217;t.&nbsp; <img src="http://couragemyfriend.org/fiction/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>In terms of the conduit, I&#8217;m thinking of the metal standard on the side of the building to which an overhead power line or telephone line comes in.&nbsp; In my experience, it&#8217;s about 2.5 inches in diameter, generally galvanized steel, attached directly to the wall with a couple of u-bolts, and extending three or four feet above.&nbsp; So, he would have been able to drop entirely below the top of the wall &#8212; no fingers showing.&nbsp;</p>
<p>In any event, you are the person to judge whether or not I wrote it well, but I&#8217;ve actually done everything up to the tackle.&nbsp; Seven feet is actually a pretty easy catch.&nbsp; The time I did it, it was closer to ten, and I had to use some ledges in the brickwork to climb high enough to grab the bottom of the conduit.&nbsp; Things got a lot easier after that.&nbsp; A wide pipe is surprisingly easy to hold onto.&nbsp; I&#8217;m not entirely sure the tackle would work, though.&nbsp; You&#8217;d have to hold on to the pipe while pushing off with your legs, in order to direct your momentum upwards (and not out).&nbsp; It would also take a while.&nbsp; You&#8217;d have to hold even longer to direct your momentum inwards again, in order for the tackle to take the guy backwards onto the roof.&nbsp; So, not sure the physics actually work in that part.&nbsp; But, hey, never let the facts get in the way of a good tackle, right?&nbsp;</p>
<p>In terms of the shapeshifting, I didn&#8217;t want it to take long or be all that angsty painful stuff you get in movies.&nbsp; Tiergan&#8217;s got enough to angst about.&nbsp; ;-)&nbsp; And I&#8217;m quite a bit less concerned with the physics of something impossible.&nbsp; So, let&#8217;s just say it takes about a second.&nbsp; <img src="http://couragemyfriend.org/fiction/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
<p>Again, thanks for the detailed feedback.</p>
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		<title>By: Vercin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vercin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Rereading the last 2 with a critical eye, the things that bug me most:&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;He does a flying leap through the air to grab (in my mind) a fairly thin conduit&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;I&#039;m picturing maybe an inch outside diameter, no more than 2. He hauls himself up to the roof, then&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;
&#8212;holds himself there comfortably for a while, pondering stuff
&#8212;ducks down below it, out of sight&#8212;I&#039;m presuming his fingertips wouldn&#039;t be visible over the top of the roof
&#8212;before the other guy can say &quot;crap&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;I&#039;ma stomp your fingers and watch you fall&quot; Tiergan&#039;s vaulted clean onto the roof and grabbed him around the waist. I&#039;ll give some leeway for the guy being totally off-guard, and Tiergan may just be crazy athletic&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;but it still seems a stretch to me.&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Other than that, action-wise&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;well, getting your teeth really into someone&#039;s trachea is probably pretty tough, but I&#039;m willing to allow it&#8212;he&#039;s half-animal, and thinks of &quot;go for the throat&quot; more than a human would. Nothing else is particularly shark-jumpy. We&#039;re learning more about the whole werewolf-change thing, but there were no big revelations here. OK, maybe the &#039;change in midair&#039; was a bit much&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;is the change sort of a morphing? A quick blink? There was plenty of action, sure, but a large-scale mix of action and calmer bits is good. I did notice that Tara is only shot &lt;i&gt;in his head&lt;/i&gt; and I enjoy the way his fears are controlling his consciousness right now.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and I&#039;ll point out that I have crap-all for qualifications as a writer, and this is just what I noticed. No malice intended, even when I&#039;m blunt. Take it or leave it :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rereading the last 2 with a critical eye, the things that bug me most:</p>
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<li>He does a flying leap through the air to grab (in my mind) a fairly thin conduit&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;I&#8217;m picturing maybe an inch outside diameter, no more than 2. He hauls himself up to the roof, then&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;<br />
&#8212;holds himself there comfortably for a while, pondering stuff<br />
&#8212;ducks down below it, out of sight&#8212;I&#8217;m presuming his fingertips wouldn&#8217;t be visible over the top of the roof<br />
&#8212;before the other guy can say &#8220;crap&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;I&#8217;ma stomp your fingers and watch you fall&#8221; Tiergan&#8217;s vaulted clean onto the roof and grabbed him around the waist. I&#8217;ll give some leeway for the guy being totally off-guard, and Tiergan may just be crazy athletic&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;but it still seems a stretch to me.</li>
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<p>Other than that, action-wise&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;well, getting your teeth really into someone&#8217;s trachea is probably pretty tough, but I&#8217;m willing to allow it&#8212;he&#8217;s half-animal, and thinks of &#8220;go for the throat&#8221; more than a human would. Nothing else is particularly shark-jumpy. We&#8217;re learning more about the whole werewolf-change thing, but there were no big revelations here. OK, maybe the &#8216;change in midair&#8217; was a bit much&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;is the change sort of a morphing? A quick blink? There was plenty of action, sure, but a large-scale mix of action and calmer bits is good. I did notice that Tara is only shot <i>in his head</i> and I enjoy the way his fears are controlling his consciousness right now.</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;ll point out that I have crap-all for qualifications as a writer, and this is just what I noticed. No malice intended, even when I&#8217;m blunt. Take it or leave it <img src="http://couragemyfriend.org/fiction/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Poirier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Poirier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Vercin, Sarah &#8212; thanks so much for your comments.&#160; I was really afraid that I&#039;d jumped the shark with the last two installments.&#160; I&#039;m thrilled to know it worked for you.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As to the schedule, I&#039;d rather actually make my schedule on a regular basis and maybe post an extra installment from time to time than be constantly apologizing for not getting to it.&#160; Additionally, the first draft of this installment&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;sucked.&#160; I&#039;m glad I was able to sleep on it instead of rushing to post it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;BTW Sarah &#8212; Tiergan doesn&#039;t actually &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; who got shot.&#160; He&#039;s assuming the worst, but it may not be the case.&#160; ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vercin, Sarah &#8212; thanks so much for your comments.&nbsp; I was really afraid that I&#8217;d jumped the shark with the last two installments.&nbsp; I&#8217;m thrilled to know it worked for you.</p>
<p>As to the schedule, I&#8217;d rather actually make my schedule on a regular basis and maybe post an extra installment from time to time than be constantly apologizing for not getting to it.&nbsp; Additionally, the first draft of this installment&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;sucked.&nbsp; I&#8217;m glad I was able to sleep on it instead of rushing to post it.</p>
<p>BTW Sarah &#8212; Tiergan doesn&#8217;t actually <em>know</em> who got shot.&nbsp; He&#8217;s assuming the worst, but it may not be the case.&nbsp; <img src="http://couragemyfriend.org/fiction/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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		<title>By: srsuleski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[srsuleski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Okay, now that I&#039;ve overcome my speechlessness.&#160;.&#160;.&#160;.&#160; I thought this was brilliant.&#160; You never read about what it would really be like to bite a person&#039;s neck, how disgusting it would feel to do that.&#160; You only ever read about characters who enjoy doing it, who think it&#039;s tasty.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At first I was thinking, &quot;He did NOT just puke into that guy&#039;s neck!!!&quot; but you kept it from just being a gratuitous gross moment by being in Tiergan&#039;s head and showing how the whole episode affects him emotionally and mentally as well as the physical.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh, and Tara. :(&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, now that I&#8217;ve overcome my speechlessness.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.&nbsp; I thought this was brilliant.&nbsp; You never read about what it would really be like to bite a person&#8217;s neck, how disgusting it would feel to do that.&nbsp; You only ever read about characters who enjoy doing it, who think it&#8217;s tasty.</p>
<p>At first I was thinking, &#8220;He did NOT just puke into that guy&#8217;s neck!!!&#8221; but you kept it from just being a gratuitous gross moment by being in Tiergan&#8217;s head and showing how the whole episode affects him emotionally and mentally as well as the physical.</p>
<p>Oh, and Tara. <img src="http://couragemyfriend.org/fiction/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" class="wp-smiley" /> </p>
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